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      <title>Podcast: Talking digital sovereignty with James Kanter</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2026 10:05:02 -0400</pubDate>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>Open Source won the technical argument a long time ago. But it still hasn't solved the funding and sustainability problem, one I've spent much of my career chipping away at.</p>
<p>Now governments around the world are pushing for <a href="https://dri.es/tag/digital-sovereignty">digital sovereignty</a>: control over critical technology they depend on.</p>
<p>Open Source began as a volunteer movement, and <a href="https://dri.es/the-commercialization-of-a-volunteer-driven-open-source-project">commercialization helped it scale</a>. Now digital sovereignty could accelerate Open Source's third and final chapter: <a href="https://dri.es/funding-open-source-like-public-infrastructure">governments helping to fund the Open Source software they depend on</a>, just as they fund roads, schools, and defense.</p>
<p>It could be a rare win-win: Open Source becomes more sustainable, while governments and society get the resilience and independence they are looking for.</p>
<p>That is what makes this moment feel so important, and why I've been writing about digital sovereignty so much lately.</p>
<p>I got into all of this on the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5j3hGm4SOCAVU4k8JwI0W1">latest episode of EU Scream</a>, hosted by <a href="https://euscream.com/">James Kanter</a>, who covered the EU for the International Herald Tribune and The New York Times for twelve years.</p>
<p>James also pushed the conversation further, into the broader public debate about technology, the risks ahead, and why I believe Open Source can help keep some of the more dystopian scenarios at bay.</p>
<p>Much of what we talked about builds on arguments I've made before, in <a href="https://dri.es/the-software-sovereignty-scale">The Software Sovereignty Scale</a> and <a href="https://dri.es/the-sovereignty-prerequisite">The Sovereignty Prerequisite</a>. But if long blog posts aren't your thing, this conversation covers the same ideas and adds a few new ones.</p>
<p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5j3hGm4SOCAVU4k8JwI0W1">Listen to the episode</a>.</p>
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      <title>Acquia acquires Mautic to create the Open Digital Experience Platform</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2019 09:05:25 -0400</pubDate>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm happy to announce today that <a href="https://www.acquia.com/blog/acquia-acquires-mautic-qa-founders-dries-buytaert-and-db-hurley">Acquia acquired Mautic</a>, an Open Source marketing automation and campaign management platform.</p>
<p>A couple of decades ago, I was convinced that every organization required a website – a thought that sounds rather obvious now. Today, I am convinced that <a href="https://dri.es/from-content-management-to-digital-experience-management">every organization will need a Digital Experience Platform</a> (DXP).</p>
<p>Having a website is no longer enough: customers expect to interact with brands through their websites, email, chat and more. They also expect these interactions to be relevant and personalized.</p>
<p>If you don't know <a href="https://www.mautic.com/">Mautic</a>, think of it as an alternative to Adobe's Marketo or Salesforce's Marketing Cloud. Just like these solutions, Mautic provides marketing automation and campaign management capabilities. It's differentiated in that it is easier to use, supports one-to-one customer experiences across many channels, integrates more easily with other tools, and is less expensive.</p>
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<p>The flowchart style visual campaign builder you saw in the beginning of <a href="https://youtu.be/DGZWrE4W2XU">the Mautic demo video</a> above is one of my favorite features. I love how it allows marketers to combine content, user profiles, events and a decision engine to deliver the best-next action to customers.</p>
<p>Mautic is a relatively young company, but has quickly grown into the largest Open Source player in the marketing automation space, with more than 200,000 installations. Its ease of use, flexibility and feature completeness has won over many marketers in a very short time: the company's top-line grew almost 400 percent year-over-year, its number of customers tripled, and Mautic won multiple awards for product innovation and customer service.</p>
<p>The acquisition of Mautic accelerates <a href="https://dri.es/the-evolution-of-acquia-product-strategy">Acquia's product strategy</a> to deliver the only Open Digital Experience Platform:</p>
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<p>There are many reasons why we like <a href="https://www.mautic.com/">Mautic</a>, but here are my top 3:</p>
<h3>Reason 1: Disrupting the market with &quot;open&quot;</h3>
<p>Open Source will disrupt every component of the modern technology stack. It's not a matter of if, it's when.</p>
<p>Just as <a href="https://www.drupal.org/">Drupal</a> disrupted web content management with Open Source, we believe <a href="https://www.mautic.org/">Mautic</a> disrupts marketing automation.</p>
<p>With Mautic, Acquia is now the only open and Open Source alternative to the expensive, closed, and stagnant marketing clouds.</p>
<p>I'm both proud and excited that <a href="https://www.acquia.com/">Acquia</a> is doubling down on Open Source. Given our extensive Open Source experience, we believe we can help grow Mautic even faster.</p>
<h3>Reason 2: Innovating through integrations</h3>
<p>To build an optimal customer experience, marketers need to integrate with different data sources, customer technologies, and bespoke in-house platforms. Instead of buying a suite from a single vendor, most marketers want an open platform that allows for open innovation and unlimited integrations.</p>
<p>Only an open architecture can connect any technology in the marketing stack, and only an Open Source innovation model can evolve fast enough to offer integrations with thousands of marketing technologies (to date, there are <a href="https://chiefmartec.com/2019/04/marketing-technology-landscape-supergraphic-2019/"> 7,000 vendors in the martech landscape</a>).</p>
<p>Because developers are largely responsible for creating and customizing marketing platforms, marketing technology should meet the needs of both business users and technology architects. Unlike other companies in the space, Mautic is loved by both marketers and developers. With Mautic, Acquia continues to focus on both personas.</p>
<h3>Reason 3: The same technology stack and business model</h3>
<p>Like Drupal, Mautic is built in <a href="https://php.net/">PHP</a> and <a href="https://symfony.com/">Symfony</a>, and like Drupal, Mautic uses the <a href="https://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#GPL">GNU GPL license</a>. Having the same technology stack has many benefits.</p>
<p>Digital agencies or in-house teams need to deliver integrated marketing solutions. Because both Drupal and Mautic use the same technology stack, a single team of developers can work on both.</p>
<p>The similarities also make it possible for both Open Source communities to collaborate – while it is not something you can force to happen, it will be interesting to see how that dynamic naturally plays out over time.</p>
<p>Last but not least, our business models are also very aligned. Both Acquia and Mautic were &quot;born in the cloud&quot; and make money by offering subscription- and cloud-based delivery options. This means you pay for only what you need and that you can focus on using the products rather than running and maintaining them.</p>
<p>Mautic offers several commercial solutions:</p>
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<li><strong>Mautic Cloud</strong>, a fully managed SaaS version of Mautic with premium features not available in Open Source.</li>
<li>For larger organizations, Mautic has a proprietary product called <strong>Maestro</strong>. Large organizations operate in many regions or territories, and have teams dedicated to each territory. With Maestro, each territory can get its own Mautic instance, but they can still share campaign best-practices, and repeat successful campaigns across territories. It's a unique capability, which is very aligned with the Acquia Cloud Site Factory.</li>
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<h3>Try Mautic</h3>
<p>If you want to try Mautic, you can either <a href="https://www.mautic.org/download/">install the community version yourself</a> or <a href="https://mautic.com/choose-your-path/">check out the demo or sandbox environment of Mautic Open Marketing Cloud</a>.</p>
<h3>Conclusion</h3>
<p>We're very excited to join forces with Mautic. It is such a strategic step for Acquia. Together we'll provide our customers with more freedom, faster innovation, and more flexibility. Open digital experiences are the way of the future.</p>
<p>I've got a lot more to share about the Mautic acquisition, how we plan to integrate Mautic in Acquia's solutions, how we could build bridges between the Drupal and Mautic community, how it impacts the marketplace, and more.</p>
<p>In time, I'll write more about these topics on this blog. In the meantime, you can listen to <a href="https://dri.es/files/acquia-acquires-mautic-podcast.m4a">this podcast with DB Hurley, Mautic's founder and CTO, and me</a>.</p>
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      <title>Lullabot podcast #65</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:31:14 -0400</pubDate>
      <description><![CDATA[<p>I was featured on the <a href="https://www.lullabot.com/podcasts">infamous Lullabot podcast series</a>. Jeff Robbins and I talk about <a href="https://www.acquia.com">Acquia</a>, <a href="https://mollom.com">Mollom</a> and Drupal 7. Check out <a href="https://www.lullabot.com/podcasts/drupalizeme-podcast/dries-buytaert-acquia-and-mollom">the Lullabot podcast #65</a> (<a href="https://dri.es/files/lullabot-podcast-65.mp3">mirror</a>) if you want. We kick it off talking about <a href="https://www.acquia.com">Acquia</a>, the <a href="https://mollom.com">Mollom</a> part starts around minute 25 and the Drupal part starts around minute 47.</p>
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